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	<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2</link>
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		<title>by: Ulises Legarreta</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17226</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17226</guid>
					<description>@Ellen: let's not forget that you're living in the-guy-in-basement house.

it is not your house to begin with.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ellen: let&#8217;s not forget that you&#8217;re living in the-guy-in-basement house.</p>
<p>it is not your house to begin with.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Benjamin Melançon</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17225</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17225</guid>
					<description>@Ellen:  To continue with bad analogies, the more powerful party has options to &lt;a href="http://mlncn.com/node/961" rel="nofollow"&gt;stop a fight&lt;/a&gt; that the less powerful party does not.

This is exactly the point of Jake's post:  You have to look at the disproportionate violence and policy of collective punishment inflicted on Palestinians from their point of view also, because the only way I have heard friends and family justify the continued violence from the Israeli government comes down to "they are crazy and hate us irrationally."  No, not really.  And even if so, at this point, if people have much hope for any sort of a better future for themselves and their children or friends' and relatives' children, they are far less likely to throw their lives away in attacks on an opponent with a formidable military.

And everyone: look for these same arguments being used about Iraquis and Afghanis, when it &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be within our memory that these peoples participated in no attacks against us nor suicide bombings until after the U.S. occupation.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ellen:  To continue with bad analogies, the more powerful party has options to <a href="http://mlncn.com/node/961" rel="nofollow">stop a fight</a> that the less powerful party does not.</p>
<p>This is exactly the point of Jake&#8217;s post:  You have to look at the disproportionate violence and policy of collective punishment inflicted on Palestinians from their point of view also, because the only way I have heard friends and family justify the continued violence from the Israeli government comes down to &#8220;they are crazy and hate us irrationally.&#8221;  No, not really.  And even if so, at this point, if people have much hope for any sort of a better future for themselves and their children or friends&#8217; and relatives&#8217; children, they are far less likely to throw their lives away in attacks on an opponent with a formidable military.</p>
<p>And everyone: look for these same arguments being used about Iraquis and Afghanis, when it <em>should</em> be within our memory that these peoples participated in no attacks against us nor suicide bombings until after the U.S. occupation.<!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17224</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17224</guid>
					<description>Why are you keeping the guy chained-up in your basement? Is it because he keeps telling you that as soon as you let him go he will kill you, your family and all your neighbours? If I lived near you I'd thank you for going to the trouble of keeping him tethered.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you keeping the guy chained-up in your basement? Is it because he keeps telling you that as soon as you let him go he will kill you, your family and all your neighbours? If I lived near you I&#8217;d thank you for going to the trouble of keeping him tethered.<!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: jurassicpork</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17223</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17223</guid>
					<description>I wouldn't say that Israel's not the bogeyman but I still commend you for being one of the few blogs that writes about this. The major A list blogs won't even touch this issue.

But I've seen what you're seeing. Even when the news gets it right and compares the ludicrously disproportionate casualty figures, the impression I get is that they always force you to look at from the Israeli perspective. Which, as you said, is half the story.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that Israel&#8217;s not the bogeyman but I still commend you for being one of the few blogs that writes about this. The major A list blogs won&#8217;t even touch this issue.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve seen what you&#8217;re seeing. Even when the news gets it right and compares the ludicrously disproportionate casualty figures, the impression I get is that they always force you to look at from the Israeli perspective. Which, as you said, is half the story.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Ulises Legarreta</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17221</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2009/01/or-does-it-explode-2#comment-17221</guid>
					<description>As always, right ON.
Cheers Jake&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, right ON.<br />
Cheers Jake<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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