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	<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate</link>
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		<title>by: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate#comment-16076</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Matt has a point about the rank and file troops. Many on the antiwar left fail to realize that many of these people can only work at Wal-Mart, the coal mine, or join the military and maybe get money for college. They choose the third option and get duped. 

Support the troops? Mutiny, desertion, and sabotage should be encouraged at all costs. The troops absolutely have a right to insurrection against their commanders, just as the insurgents have the right to self-defense.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt has a point about the rank and file troops. Many on the antiwar left fail to realize that many of these people can only work at Wal-Mart, the coal mine, or join the military and maybe get money for college. They choose the third option and get duped. </p>
<p>Support the troops? Mutiny, desertion, and sabotage should be encouraged at all costs. The troops absolutely have a right to insurrection against their commanders, just as the insurgents have the right to self-defense.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Tay</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate#comment-16066</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I do not BLAME the troops for this war; I agree that we must blame the officials.

I do not dispute the fact that war puts men in situations to kill or be killed.

I am saying that many of these soldiers still feel they are on the just side.  People are STILL joining thinking it is a just cause.  The military isn't innocent from the actions of our government because they were just following orders. 

Vietnam, a war which saw well over 1.5 million people drafted seems somewhat different than what is happening now.  Furthermore, the amount of information offered to us through advances in communication technology make enlisting less excusable today.

As LMB stated “support the troops” is something more along the lines of “I am loyal to the president and his war.”

I have never supported this war, meaning I don’t support our administrations actions or the actions of their believers and followers who have been sent over.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not BLAME the troops for this war; I agree that we must blame the officials.</p>
<p>I do not dispute the fact that war puts men in situations to kill or be killed.</p>
<p>I am saying that many of these soldiers still feel they are on the just side.  People are STILL joining thinking it is a just cause.  The military isn&#8217;t innocent from the actions of our government because they were just following orders. </p>
<p>Vietnam, a war which saw well over 1.5 million people drafted seems somewhat different than what is happening now.  Furthermore, the amount of information offered to us through advances in communication technology make enlisting less excusable today.</p>
<p>As LMB stated “support the troops” is something more along the lines of “I am loyal to the president and his war.”</p>
<p>I have never supported this war, meaning I don’t support our administrations actions or the actions of their believers and followers who have been sent over.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate#comment-16059</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>its not the army that makes these men so unstable, it is iraq and the nuts over there. kill or be killed is not a "mantra" it is a FACT. these people will die if they hesitate for one second. they cant afford to be nice or humanistic. that place turns people into animals, regardless of if they are voluntary or not.

true, these men in the army were not forced to join but that does not negate the fact that the situations over there is deplorible and we cant blame the troops for finding ANY WAY to deal with it. 

its like yelling at a fire fighter for getting burned, then telling him he is lame for letting himself get burned. its bound to happen.

america has done this before in NAM' DO NOT BLAME THE TROOPS BLAME THE GOVERNMENT. TROOPS FOLLOW ORDERS. PERIOD.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not the army that makes these men so unstable, it is iraq and the nuts over there. kill or be killed is not a &#8220;mantra&#8221; it is a FACT. these people will die if they hesitate for one second. they cant afford to be nice or humanistic. that place turns people into animals, regardless of if they are voluntary or not.</p>
<p>true, these men in the army were not forced to join but that does not negate the fact that the situations over there is deplorible and we cant blame the troops for finding ANY WAY to deal with it. </p>
<p>its like yelling at a fire fighter for getting burned, then telling him he is lame for letting himself get burned. its bound to happen.</p>
<p>america has done this before in NAM&#8217; DO NOT BLAME THE TROOPS BLAME THE GOVERNMENT. TROOPS FOLLOW ORDERS. PERIOD.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Tay</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate#comment-16058</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It seems to me that LMB is here to educate as well as commentate on our current situations, not bash the troops.  Living in close proximity to a large Marine base I can attest to the hatred many of these soldiers harbor.  It's true that they were shipped over based on lies of the evil and incompetent but let's not pretend they are all innocent soldiers following orders and reciting the survival mantra "kill or be killed".  

There must be a certain amount of conditioning involved in military training but not enough to change completely rational peaceful people into war hateful trained killers mindlessly following orders.  

I personally witness a portion these "troops" in civilian settings with an aggressive attitude and exhibiting racist, sexist, sexually biased often hateful behavior.  

Give these troops heavy weaponry and place them in situations with an objective to kill if necessary and I will not support them.

Bottom line:  The draft is not in effect, whatever their intention these people signed up for the job.&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: short field, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that LMB is here to educate as well as commentate on our current situations, not bash the troops.  Living in close proximity to a large Marine base I can attest to the hatred many of these soldiers harbor.  It&#8217;s true that they were shipped over based on lies of the evil and incompetent but let&#8217;s not pretend they are all innocent soldiers following orders and reciting the survival mantra &#8220;kill or be killed&#8221;.  </p>
<p>There must be a certain amount of conditioning involved in military training but not enough to change completely rational peaceful people into war hateful trained killers mindlessly following orders.  </p>
<p>I personally witness a portion these &#8220;troops&#8221; in civilian settings with an aggressive attitude and exhibiting racist, sexist, sexually biased often hateful behavior.  </p>
<p>Give these troops heavy weaponry and place them in situations with an objective to kill if necessary and I will not support them.</p>
<p>Bottom line:  The draft is not in effect, whatever their intention these people signed up for the job.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: short field, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body -->
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		<title>by: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2007/03/scandalgate#comment-16056</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>True, alot of U.S. troops have blood on them. BUT simply put, i'd kill everyone i could if i was shipped over there based on lies and be ordred around by the evil/incompetent. 
 
Bottom line: if you actions keep you alive or MIGHT keep you alive, kill anything and everyone. KILL OR BE KILLED is the rule.

I dont care if a 5 year old does it, if someone shoots at me, they die. period. i am shure troops have the same opinion.

i love your show/site/general POV but seriously, you cant blame the troops AT ALL, FOR ANYTHING BAD. shure we had some shitheads over there (abu ghraib) but jesus christ how would YOU feel as a troop over there?

Id be a genociadal maniac after having to go through that kind of INSANITY. people blowing themselves up daily ect..... this is not a place that people make %100 happy and loving decisions. morals and sentiments of "the right to life of humanity" go out the window. 

GIVE THE TROOPS A BRAKE!&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --&gt;&lt;!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, alot of U.S. troops have blood on them. BUT simply put, i&#8217;d kill everyone i could if i was shipped over there based on lies and be ordred around by the evil/incompetent. </p>
<p>Bottom line: if you actions keep you alive or MIGHT keep you alive, kill anything and everyone. KILL OR BE KILLED is the rule.</p>
<p>I dont care if a 5 year old does it, if someone shoots at me, they die. period. i am shure troops have the same opinion.</p>
<p>i love your show/site/general POV but seriously, you cant blame the troops AT ALL, FOR ANYTHING BAD. shure we had some shitheads over there (abu ghraib) but jesus christ how would YOU feel as a troop over there?</p>
<p>Id be a genociadal maniac after having to go through that kind of INSANITY. people blowing themselves up daily ect&#8230;.. this is not a place that people make %100 happy and loving decisions. morals and sentiments of &#8220;the right to life of humanity&#8221; go out the window. </p>
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