Comments on: We Will Fight the Heathens http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens Muckraking. Media. Music. Menace. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:37:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: ryan anderson http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10091 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:23:02 +0000 http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10091 slaughterhouse five did it for me. just the fact that we leveled dresden when it wasnt even necessary. but then...the same thing happened in japan. it seems to go on and on. the stories are the same, over and over. lately ive been reading about latin america...chile, argentina, peru. dictators, colonial legacies, coup's left and right. and the stories in latin america sound so much like iraq, with saddam-esque leaders who help power by military rule...same thing in nicaragua, guatemala, and others. the worst part of the story is hearing about how the US supported, or at least accepted, the rule of the likes of pinochet in chile, somoza in nicaragua. and then we wonder why radical, violent revolutions occur. and one of the major issues that the US has continually had in latin america is with leaders who tried to give land back to the people that actually lived in the country (as opposed to entities like United Fruit, for example). dont get in the way of business and the expropriation of resources. sickening. iraq is the same thing. the official line is that we're there to promote democracy, and to save the iraqi people. and we all know that the line has changed over time, but many americans buy it and feel that the mission is just, right, noble, good. but really, its all about stabilizing access to resouces, so that we can all keep going into wall-mart and buying cheap socks and shit like that. fuck. slaughterhouse five did it for me. just the fact that we leveled dresden when it wasnt even necessary. but then…the same thing happened in japan.

it seems to go on and on. the stories are the same, over and over. lately ive been reading about latin america…chile, argentina, peru. dictators, colonial legacies, coup’s left and right. and the stories in latin america sound so much like iraq, with saddam-esque leaders who help power by military rule…same thing in nicaragua, guatemala, and others. the worst part of the story is hearing about how the US supported, or at least accepted, the rule of the likes of pinochet in chile, somoza in nicaragua. and then we wonder why radical, violent revolutions occur.

and one of the major issues that the US has continually had in latin america is with leaders who tried to give land back to the people that actually lived in the country (as opposed to entities like United Fruit, for example). dont get in the way of business and the expropriation of resources.

sickening. iraq is the same thing. the official line is that we’re there to promote democracy, and to save the iraqi people. and we all know that the line has changed over time, but many americans buy it and feel that the mission is just, right, noble, good.

but really, its all about stabilizing access to resouces, so that we can all keep going into wall-mart and buying cheap socks and shit like that.

fuck.

]]> by: tik2roo http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10087 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:59:53 +0000 http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10087 Vonnegut has always made me feel. He's made me laugh and cry. I haven't read his latest book, but I want to very badly. I've walked a life on a different path from his in shoes very similar. I understand his motives and the way he feels. And so it goes. I'm going to reference your blog on my journal sometime in the future. You've made me cry. The man on the bus wasn't crazy. He just knew the futility of it all and stepped off the path. There is no abnormal pathos in that. Vonnegut has always made me feel. He’s made me laugh and cry. I haven’t read his latest book, but I want to very badly. I’ve walked a life on a different path from his in shoes very similar. I understand his motives and the way he feels. And so it goes.

I’m going to reference your blog on my journal sometime in the future. You’ve made me cry. The man on the bus wasn’t crazy. He just knew the futility of it all and stepped off the path. There is no abnormal pathos in that.

]]> by: Nic http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10084 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:09:24 +0000 http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/2006/02/we-will-fight-the-heathens#comment-10084 Was the guy on the bus really crazy? Was the basis of your assessment this statement? I remember hearing that there are 12 million Iraqis (maybe this is wrong, but <i>I'm</i> lazy enough not to check. But anyway, maybe the US regime should just have split the money amongst them and given them a year to get out, then the US would own Iraq, and all the Iraqis would be living it up on the French Rivieria and it would have all been over a coupls of years ago. 2 Trill / 12 million people = 160 grand each. I think I'd piss off to another country if my wife, my two kids and I all got $160k, especially if the alternative was getting totally fucked over (am I allowed to swear?). Was the guy on the bus really crazy? Was the basis of your assessment this statement?

I remember hearing that there are 12 million Iraqis (maybe this is wrong, but I’m lazy enough not to check. But anyway, maybe the US regime should just have split the money amongst them and given them a year to get out, then the US would own Iraq, and all the Iraqis would be living it up on the French Rivieria and it would have all been over a coupls of years ago. 2 Trill / 12 million people = 160 grand each. I think I’d piss off to another country if my wife, my two kids and I all got $160k, especially if the alternative was getting totally fucked over (am I allowed to swear?).

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